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Childhood Cancer Awareness Month
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- 00:00 --> 00:02Funding for Yale Cancer Answers is
- 00:02 --> 00:04provided by Smilow Cancer Hospital.
- 00:06 --> 00:08Welcome to Yale Cancer Answers
- 00:08 --> 00:10with Doctor Anees Chagpar.
- 00:10 --> 00:12Yale Cancer answers features the
- 00:12 --> 00:13latest information on cancer
- 00:13 --> 00:15care by welcoming oncologists and
- 00:15 --> 00:17specialists who are on the forefront
- 00:17 --> 00:19of the battle to fight cancer.
- 00:19 --> 00:21This week, it's a conversation about
- 00:21 --> 00:23childhood cancer with Doctor Mary Jane Hogan.
- 00:23 --> 00:26Dr Hogan is an associate professor of
- 00:26 --> 00:27clinical Pediatrics and hematology
- 00:27 --> 00:30oncology at the Yale School of Medicine,
- 00:30 --> 00:32where Doctor Chagpar is a professor
- 00:32 --> 00:33of surgical oncology.
- 00:35 --> 00:36So, Doctor Hogan, maybe we can start
- 00:36 --> 00:39off by you telling us a little bit more
- 00:39 --> 00:41about yourself and what it is you do.
- 00:41 --> 00:44Sure. I am currently working in
- 00:44 --> 00:48our Smilow cancer clinic in New Haven,
- 00:48 --> 00:50as well as our clinics located
- 00:50 --> 00:54in Trumbull and Greenwich, CT.
- 00:54 --> 00:58I've come by way of a lot of different
- 00:58 --> 01:02avenues. My research initially has focused on
- 01:02 --> 01:04treating brain tumors in
- 01:04 --> 01:07mice in the laboratory,
- 01:07 --> 01:10but more recently have done more research
- 01:10 --> 01:13in childhood cancer survivorship issues.
- 01:13 --> 01:17And currently am also doing
- 01:17 --> 01:19the clinical education issues
- 01:19 --> 01:21for colleagues and trainees,
- 01:21 --> 01:24as well as helping families and
- 01:24 --> 01:27patients with learning about cancer.
- 01:28 --> 01:31Terrific, NOTE Confidence: 0.806416672
- 01:31 --> 01:33we're talking here about childhood
- 01:33 --> 01:35cancers and that's something that
- 01:35 --> 01:37everyone always finds really distressing,
- 01:37 --> 01:40the fact that children can get cancer.
- 01:40 --> 01:43So can you tell us a little bit more about
- 01:43 --> 01:45the epidemiology of childhood cancers?
- 01:45 --> 01:48I mean, how many children in the US get
- 01:48 --> 01:51diagnosed with cancer every year and
- 01:51 --> 01:54how common is it and what kinds of
- 01:54 --> 01:58cancers are we talking about here?
- 01:58 --> 02:02Well, childhood cancers are more
- 02:02 --> 02:05rare compared to adult cancers.
- 02:05 --> 02:07There are approximately 2,000,000
- 02:07 --> 02:09adults every year diagnosed with
- 02:09 --> 02:11cancer in the United States,
- 02:11 --> 02:14and this is compared to about
- 02:14 --> 02:1715,000 children and teens in the
- 02:17 --> 02:20United States diagnosed every year.
- 02:20 --> 02:23And cancer, I'll just sort of describe
- 02:23 --> 02:26it a little bit here, is an abnormal
- 02:26 --> 02:29increase in cells in the body of
- 02:29 --> 02:31abnormal cells that don't function
- 02:31 --> 02:35or don't work in the body and they
- 02:35 --> 02:38take up space and this doesn't
- 02:38 --> 02:41allow the regular body organs to
- 02:41 --> 02:45do their job and keep us healthy.
- 02:45 --> 02:50And so the most common cancers in children
- 02:50 --> 02:51are leukemia,
- 02:51 --> 02:53and this is an abnormal
- 02:53 --> 02:55accumulation of white blood cells.
- 02:55 --> 02:57White blood cells typically fight infection,
- 02:57 --> 03:00but in leukemias
- 03:00 --> 03:03they just take up space and so
- 03:03 --> 03:05that you cannot fight infection.
- 03:05 --> 03:06The second most common type of
- 03:06 --> 03:09cancer in children are brain tumors.
- 03:09 --> 03:11This is where there's an abnormal
- 03:11 --> 03:14growth or mass in the brain.
- 03:14 --> 03:17The third most common are lymphomas.
- 03:17 --> 03:20This is a cancer found in the lymph nodes,
- 03:20 --> 03:21which are glands located throughout
- 03:21 --> 03:26our body that help us fight infection.
- 03:26 --> 03:29And then the remaining cancers involve
- 03:29 --> 03:30the soft tissues of the body,
- 03:30 --> 03:33such as the muscles or the
- 03:33 --> 03:35various organs of the body,
- 03:35 --> 03:39including the nerves outside the brain or
- 03:39 --> 03:45the kidney or the bone anywhere in the body.
- 03:49 --> 03:50So it's very rare
- 03:50 --> 03:52compared to adult cancer,
- 03:52 --> 03:55but still obviously very important.
- 03:56 --> 03:59When we think about adult cancers,
- 03:59 --> 04:02very often there's an exposure.
- 04:02 --> 04:04So for example, in lung cancer
- 04:04 --> 04:07we know that there is a great
- 04:07 --> 04:09association with cigarette smoking
- 04:09 --> 04:12or any smoking really. In Melanoma,
- 04:12 --> 04:14we know that there's an exposure
- 04:14 --> 04:17to radiation often from the
- 04:17 --> 04:19sun that occurs.
- 04:19 --> 04:20For children,
- 04:20 --> 04:22one would anticipate just
- 04:22 --> 04:24because they are children that
- 04:24 --> 04:26they've had less exposures to
- 04:26 --> 04:28potential carcinogens.
- 04:28 --> 04:30So can you talk a little bit
- 04:30 --> 04:33more about the risk factors for
- 04:33 --> 04:34developing childhood cancers?
- 04:34 --> 04:37Are many of these genetic or are
- 04:37 --> 04:39there other things that predispose
- 04:39 --> 04:41some children to developing
- 04:41 --> 04:42childhood cancers versus others?
- 04:44 --> 04:46Overall, most causes of
- 04:46 --> 04:48childhood cancer are unknown.
- 04:48 --> 04:51We have learned over the past 50 years
- 04:51 --> 04:57though, that about 5 to 10% may be inherited.
- 04:57 --> 05:01There are about 50 cancer predisposition
- 05:01 --> 05:06syndromes that we call based on genetic
- 05:06 --> 05:09mutations that a child may inherit.
- 05:09 --> 05:11Passed on through the
- 05:11 --> 05:14family or are born with.
- 05:14 --> 05:17In which there are many other symptoms.
- 05:17 --> 05:20So when we discover a condition like this,
- 05:20 --> 05:24we recommend looking at the child
- 05:24 --> 05:28every couple of months to years,
- 05:28 --> 05:30looking for cancer itself.
- 05:30 --> 05:32Some cancers have been
- 05:32 --> 05:34associated with viral illness.
- 05:34 --> 05:37Epstein Barr virus has been
- 05:37 --> 05:40associated with lymphomas.
- 05:40 --> 05:42HIV has been associated
- 05:42 --> 05:45with certain cancers and people
- 05:45 --> 05:48might have heard of human papillomavirus,
- 05:48 --> 05:51which we are now giving vaccines
- 05:51 --> 05:54in the teenage years to people to
- 05:54 --> 06:01prevent several cancers in adulthood.
- 06:01 --> 06:05A parent who has been exposed to
- 06:05 --> 06:08radiation while the child is in the womb.
- 06:08 --> 06:11The child may be affected with cancer.
- 06:11 --> 06:12There have been some reports,
- 06:12 --> 06:15possibly of pesticides during
- 06:15 --> 06:19exposure while in the womb or as a
- 06:19 --> 06:21very young child causing cancers.
- 06:21 --> 06:25These are not directly effective,
- 06:25 --> 06:28but there have been several reports.
- 06:28 --> 06:31And in our children who have
- 06:31 --> 06:32had previous cancers,
- 06:32 --> 06:35they are at an increased risk of
- 06:35 --> 06:39having cancer because of either their
- 06:39 --> 06:42genetic predisposition or they've been
- 06:42 --> 06:45exposed to certain treatments
- 06:45 --> 06:48that can increase risk of cancer.
- 06:48 --> 06:49But in general,
- 06:49 --> 06:52most causes are unknown.
- 06:52 --> 06:55Cancer is not something
- 06:55 --> 06:57that is contagious.
- 06:57 --> 07:01And it's not something necessarily that you
- 07:01 --> 07:05can avoid or something that
- 07:05 --> 07:08you've done to yourself necessarily so
- 07:08 --> 07:13nobody is really to blame for the cancer.
- 07:14 --> 07:16When you think about
- 07:16 --> 07:18most causes being unknown and
- 07:18 --> 07:20only about 5 to 10% being genetic,
- 07:20 --> 07:22and then the other etiologic factors
- 07:22 --> 07:26that we know about,
- 07:26 --> 07:28viral infections and intrauterine
- 07:28 --> 07:31exposures to various toxins and so on,
- 07:31 --> 07:33which one would presumably think
- 07:33 --> 07:36would be a fairly small proportion
- 07:36 --> 07:39that leaves the vast majority to
- 07:39 --> 07:41be something that is not something
- 07:41 --> 07:43that you can even anticipate.
- 07:43 --> 07:48Given if you're a
- 07:48 --> 07:53new parent and you have a healthy child,
- 07:53 --> 07:55you're not really expecting
- 07:55 --> 07:58that that child will develop cancer.
- 07:58 --> 08:00Can you tell us a little bit more
- 08:00 --> 08:02about some of the side effects,
- 08:02 --> 08:04some of the symptoms that you
- 08:04 --> 08:07should be looking for that might tip
- 08:07 --> 08:09you off that there might be something
- 08:09 --> 08:11wrong that might be a cancer?
- 08:11 --> 08:13Is there a way that we can diagnose
- 08:13 --> 08:14these early?
- 08:15 --> 08:19It's very difficult to diagnose
- 08:19 --> 08:21cancers early in children.
- 08:21 --> 08:23You'd need a sizable amount of these
- 08:23 --> 08:25abnormal cells to actually show
- 08:25 --> 08:27themselves and to show a sign or symptom.
- 08:30 --> 08:32Please note that I will describe a
- 08:32 --> 08:34whole long list of signs and symptoms,
- 08:34 --> 08:36but typically children present with
- 08:36 --> 08:38a combination of these symptoms.
- 08:38 --> 08:41So not just one symptom means cancer.
- 08:41 --> 08:42There's a combination,
- 08:42 --> 08:45and often the symptoms that people
- 08:45 --> 08:48present with, our children present
- 08:48 --> 08:50with and grownups too,
- 08:50 --> 08:54the signs are persistent.
- 08:54 --> 08:57And they worsen over time
- 08:57 --> 08:59and they typically can't be
- 08:59 --> 09:02explained by an infection or an
- 09:02 --> 09:05injury that the child has had.
- 09:05 --> 09:07So it's mostly unexplained
- 09:07 --> 09:09but worsening of symptoms.
- 09:09 --> 09:12And there's a long list of symptoms,
- 09:12 --> 09:14unexplained weight loss.
- 09:14 --> 09:17So not that the child's not eating
- 09:18 --> 09:22enough or losing weight from too
- 09:22 --> 09:24much exercise and so not eating
- 09:24 --> 09:26enough,
- 09:26 --> 09:28it's weight loss that you can't explain.
- 09:28 --> 09:29They're eating fine.
- 09:29 --> 09:31Fevers that you can't explain
- 09:31 --> 09:33that persist and worsen.
- 09:33 --> 09:36Not from a simple infection or
- 09:36 --> 09:37even a complicated infection,
- 09:37 --> 09:40but fevers that just cannot be explained.
- 09:40 --> 09:41Night sweats,
- 09:41 --> 09:43not getting a little damp at night,
- 09:43 --> 09:46but if your T-shirt and bedding and
- 09:46 --> 09:48pillow and hair are soaked and you
- 09:48 --> 09:50have to change it and you're like,
- 09:50 --> 09:52where did this come from? I'm not even warm.
- 09:52 --> 09:54I don't even have a fever.
- 09:54 --> 09:57What is going on? Headaches.
- 09:57 --> 10:00Headaches are a common sign.
- 10:00 --> 10:04The headaches are common for a lot of people,
- 10:04 --> 10:08but the ones that are more worrisome
- 10:08 --> 10:11usually occur in the early morning,
- 10:11 --> 10:13are associated with vomiting,
- 10:13 --> 10:15sometimes awaken you at night,
- 10:15 --> 10:19and they don't respond to Tylenol or
- 10:19 --> 10:22ibuprofen or simple remedies that
- 10:22 --> 10:24we use for headaches or hydration.
- 10:26 --> 10:31If a parent notices swelling or pain in
- 10:31 --> 10:35arms or legs or at the back of a child,
- 10:35 --> 10:39if you notice a mass in the neck or in
- 10:39 --> 10:43the armpits or in the abdomen or pelvis,
- 10:43 --> 10:47that's just sticking out,
- 10:47 --> 10:50that can be a sign of cancer if
- 10:50 --> 10:52they're in combination with all these
- 10:52 --> 10:54other signs and symptoms. If there's
- 10:54 --> 10:56a lot of bruising or bleeding.
- 10:56 --> 11:00Or rash that just doesn't go
- 11:00 --> 11:02away with simple interventions.
- 11:02 --> 11:07If somebody seems very pale and
- 11:07 --> 11:11it worsens overtime or is tired
- 11:11 --> 11:14not explained by
- 11:14 --> 11:18only sleeping for five hours a night or
- 11:18 --> 11:24being tired without really knowing why.
- 11:24 --> 11:27If anybody has any vision changes
- 11:27 --> 11:29that's not explained or corrected
- 11:29 --> 11:32with simple glasses, NOTE Confidence: 0.941908941428571
- 11:32 --> 11:34these in combination,
- 11:34 --> 11:38along with a good physical exam
- 11:38 --> 11:41by the pediatrician is very
- 11:41 --> 11:45important to see if a person has
- 11:45 --> 11:47the signs or symptoms that
- 11:47 --> 11:49seem to be like cancer.
- 11:50 --> 11:53And many of those really
- 11:53 --> 11:55seem like they would be commonplace.
- 11:55 --> 11:57And I think one of the things that
- 11:57 --> 12:00you made clear is that while these
- 12:00 --> 12:02symptoms may seem commonplace,
- 12:02 --> 12:03a little bit of fatigue,
- 12:03 --> 12:07a little bit of
- 12:07 --> 12:11fever, maybe a headache, if these
- 12:11 --> 12:14are persistent and unexplained,
- 12:14 --> 12:16that's really when you
- 12:16 --> 12:18want to see your pediatrician and
- 12:18 --> 12:20kind of get this checked out.
- 12:20 --> 12:23One question that our listeners might
- 12:23 --> 12:25have is how persistent is persistent?
- 12:25 --> 12:27Like, should I wait a week,
- 12:27 --> 12:30two weeks, two months?
- 12:30 --> 12:33When would you suggest that if
- 12:33 --> 12:36if a child is not doing so well?
- 12:36 --> 12:38How long should you wait before you
- 12:38 --> 12:41you go and and seek medical advice?
- 12:42 --> 12:45It's a great question and I think
- 12:45 --> 12:48it's dependent on each situation.
- 12:48 --> 12:53Definitely if a child is getting worse each
- 12:53 --> 12:57day or each hour and your child,
- 12:57 --> 12:59they'll run around and play
- 12:59 --> 13:01and when they're not feeling well,
- 13:01 --> 13:01they don't.
- 13:01 --> 13:04And if you're noticing more of that,
- 13:04 --> 13:05they're not playing,
- 13:05 --> 13:07they're not eating, they're not
- 13:07 --> 13:10doing the things they need to do,
- 13:10 --> 13:13then you need to contact your
- 13:13 --> 13:15pediatrician and tell them of your
- 13:15 --> 13:18concerns and have the pediatrician take
- 13:18 --> 13:20a look so I wouldn't wait too long.
- 13:20 --> 13:23On the other hand, if the symptoms
- 13:23 --> 13:26are very mild and they come and go,
- 13:26 --> 13:30they don't impact the child's activities
- 13:30 --> 13:36or school or appetite and their symptoms
- 13:36 --> 13:40resolve for months on end,
- 13:40 --> 13:42then that is not a time to
- 13:42 --> 13:45necessarily contact your pediatrician.
- 13:45 --> 13:46Whatever happened,
- 13:46 --> 13:47it has resolved.
- 13:49 --> 13:51OK, great. Well, we're going to dive
- 13:51 --> 13:54more into the diagnosis and treatment
- 13:54 --> 13:57of childhood cancers right after we
- 13:57 --> 14:00take a quick break for a medical minute.
- 14:00 --> 14:02Please stay tuned to learn more
- 14:02 --> 14:03about the care of childhood cancer
- 14:03 --> 14:06with my guest, Doctor Mary Hogan.
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- 14:34 --> 14:37is a very exciting milestone,
- 14:37 --> 14:38but cancer and its treatment can
- 14:38 --> 14:41be a life changing experience.
- 14:41 --> 14:43The return to normal activities
- 14:43 --> 14:45and relationships may be difficult
- 14:45 --> 14:46and cancer survivors may face
- 14:46 --> 14:49other long term side effects of
- 14:49 --> 14:50cancer including heart problems,
- 14:50 --> 14:51osteoporosis,
- 14:51 --> 14:54fertility issues and an increased
- 14:54 --> 14:56risk of second cancers.
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- 15:19 --> 15:21quality of life,
- 15:21 --> 15:22and longevity.
- 15:22 --> 15:25More information is available at
- 15:25 --> 15:26yalecancercenter.org. You're listening to
- 15:26 --> 15:28Connecticut Public Radio.
- 15:28 --> 15:31Welcome back to Yale Cancer Answers.
- 15:31 --> 15:33This is doctor Anees Chagpar and I'm joined
- 15:33 --> 15:36tonight by my guest, Doctor Mary Hogan.
- 15:36 --> 15:38We're talking about the care of patients
- 15:38 --> 15:41with childhood cancer in honor of
- 15:41 --> 15:43childhood Cancer Awareness Month.
- 15:43 --> 15:45And right before the break, Mary,
- 15:45 --> 15:48you were telling us about all of the symptoms
- 15:48 --> 15:51that you should really be watching for.
- 15:51 --> 15:53What can you expect in terms of
- 15:53 --> 15:56a work up for a potential cancer?
- 15:56 --> 15:58Tell us more about how the diagnosis
- 15:58 --> 16:02of childhood cancers are made.
- 16:02 --> 16:06Your pediatrician and child's pediatrician
- 16:06 --> 16:10may order some blood tests or some simple
- 16:10 --> 16:13imaging such as X-rays or an ultrasound,
- 16:13 --> 16:15and when they find something
- 16:15 --> 16:17abnormal or alarming or are not sure,
- 16:17 --> 16:21they'll refer to a pediatric oncologist
- 16:21 --> 16:25and we will often get blood tests.
- 16:25 --> 16:28We will often get other more advanced imaging
- 16:28 --> 16:32such as CT scans or MRIs.
- 16:32 --> 16:36And based on those, then we get our experts,
- 16:36 --> 16:39pediatric surgeons to help us get
- 16:39 --> 16:42a biopsy of a mass that we might
- 16:42 --> 16:44have found on the imaging.
- 16:44 --> 16:47Or we ask our specialists in pathology
- 16:47 --> 16:50to take a look at the blood samples to
- 16:50 --> 16:53see if there's any abnormal cells there.
- 16:53 --> 16:55And then once we have an
- 16:55 --> 16:57idea that it is a cancer,
- 16:57 --> 16:59we do even more extensive
- 16:59 --> 17:02testing to find out the exact kind of
- 17:02 --> 17:06cancer so that we can deliver the most
- 17:06 --> 17:10appropriate therapy for the best outcomes.
- 17:10 --> 17:14I can only imagine that when that
- 17:14 --> 17:17diagnosis comes down and you tell a
- 17:17 --> 17:19child's parent that their
- 17:19 --> 17:22child has cancer, that can be
- 17:22 --> 17:25just devastating for that family.
- 17:25 --> 17:28Tell me more about how you
- 17:28 --> 17:30get patients
- 17:30 --> 17:31and their families,
- 17:31 --> 17:33through that kind of a diagnosis.
- 17:34 --> 17:38Cancer is a devastating diagnosis.
- 17:38 --> 17:40Everybody has been touched by
- 17:40 --> 17:42cancer in some way or form,
- 17:42 --> 17:45whether it be relative or a neighbor,
- 17:45 --> 17:47and they bring their own
- 17:47 --> 17:49experiences with them to this.
- 17:49 --> 17:52So once you hear your child has cancer,
- 17:52 --> 17:55as you said, it is devastating
- 17:55 --> 17:57and everybody is in shock.
- 17:57 --> 18:03And it is difficult to deliver that news,
- 18:03 --> 18:04however, at the same time,
- 18:04 --> 18:07we want to get the child better and we
- 18:07 --> 18:10want a cure, and we want to get moving
- 18:10 --> 18:12on treatment so we can get there.
- 18:12 --> 18:18So we don't want to wait too
- 18:18 --> 18:21long in belaboring it.
- 18:21 --> 18:23So we want to be supportive of the family.
- 18:23 --> 18:25We have social workers and psychologists
- 18:25 --> 18:28help us so that we can deliver the news
- 18:28 --> 18:33to where the family is and
- 18:33 --> 18:35understanding from their experiences,
- 18:35 --> 18:38but also the child at different
- 18:38 --> 18:40ages you have different
- 18:40 --> 18:42cognitive abilities,
- 18:42 --> 18:46and so it's important to answer
- 18:46 --> 18:48their questions appropriately
- 18:48 --> 18:50and make them aware of this.
- 18:50 --> 18:54They are directly involved in
- 18:54 --> 18:57the treatment, they will need
- 18:57 --> 19:00blood tests and imaging as I
- 19:00 --> 19:02mentioned and the therapies that we
- 19:02 --> 19:04give have to be sometimes taken by
- 19:04 --> 19:07mouth or given intravenously or
- 19:07 --> 19:11you have to sit still for radiation therapy.
- 19:11 --> 19:15So the child needs to be aware of
- 19:15 --> 19:18why they're getting the therapy and
- 19:18 --> 19:21what it means to complete
- 19:21 --> 19:24your treatment of therapy.
- 19:24 --> 19:27It's a very difficult conversation and
- 19:27 --> 19:31we all are upset by it.
- 19:31 --> 19:34And at the same time, we want to help.
- 19:37 --> 19:40And I do find that a lot of
- 19:40 --> 19:43kids are really pretty resilient
- 19:43 --> 19:46and they will power through
- 19:46 --> 19:51that with with some form of enthusiasm
- 19:51 --> 19:56even when their parents may be more
- 19:56 --> 19:58devastated than the child sometimes.
- 20:00 --> 20:02For sure. Kids are amazing.
- 20:02 --> 20:04They're like, how long is this going to take?
- 20:04 --> 20:06I need to get to baseball practice.
- 20:07 --> 20:08Is this going to interfere with the prom?
- 20:08 --> 20:10Because we need to rearrange this
- 20:10 --> 20:12treatment schedule
- 20:12 --> 20:14and so we ask the kids,
- 20:14 --> 20:16where are you at?
- 20:16 --> 20:17What do we need to do?
- 20:17 --> 20:19How do we get you to the clinic?
- 20:19 --> 20:21And how do we get you to the more
- 20:21 --> 20:23important things of your life as well?
- 20:23 --> 20:26So kids are amazing.
- 20:26 --> 20:27And so are the parents.
- 20:28 --> 20:29Talk to us a little bit
- 20:29 --> 20:32more about the the various treatment
- 20:32 --> 20:34modalities that are used to treat
- 20:34 --> 20:36children with cancer and
- 20:36 --> 20:39I realize that it's a little
- 20:39 --> 20:41difficult given the fact that there
- 20:41 --> 20:44are so many different kinds of cancer
- 20:44 --> 20:46that are kind of all clumped under
- 20:46 --> 20:48the umbrella of childhood cancer.
- 20:48 --> 20:50But talk to us a bit about the types
- 20:50 --> 20:52of therapies and their duration so that
- 20:52 --> 20:55we can get a sense of what exactly does
- 20:55 --> 20:57treatment look like for these kids.
- 20:58 --> 20:59Sure, treatment
- 20:59 --> 21:02is directed toward the specific type of cancer.
- 21:02 --> 21:05And every year we become more specific
- 21:05 --> 21:08about the type of cancer you have.
- 21:08 --> 21:10We just don't lump it under leukemia.
- 21:10 --> 21:12Now we we literally go
- 21:12 --> 21:15down the path of directed
- 21:15 --> 21:17targeted therapies and the reason
- 21:17 --> 21:20why we do that is to reduce toxic
- 21:20 --> 21:22effects from these medications.
- 21:22 --> 21:24If you don't need as much
- 21:24 --> 21:26therapy to achieve a cure,
- 21:26 --> 21:28we would like to eliminate those therapies.
- 21:28 --> 21:30Whereas if you have a more
- 21:30 --> 21:31difficult cancer to treat,
- 21:31 --> 21:33we want to give you all the
- 21:33 --> 21:35available therapies, and
- 21:35 --> 21:37therapies, as I mentioned before,
- 21:37 --> 21:40can be taken by mouth or intravenously
- 21:40 --> 21:43or given in a variety of different ways.
- 21:43 --> 21:45So our basic
- 21:45 --> 21:48treatments are called chemotherapy.
- 21:48 --> 21:50They're given in combinations because
- 21:50 --> 21:53they act on the cancer cells differently.
- 21:53 --> 21:56And over the past 50 years,
- 21:56 --> 21:58based on children who have
- 21:58 --> 22:00enrolled in our clinical trials,
- 22:00 --> 22:02we've come up with standard
- 22:02 --> 22:04of care throughout the nation.
- 22:04 --> 22:05How best to treat this.
- 22:05 --> 22:09And we're always trying to improve upon this.
- 22:09 --> 22:13More recently to our chemotherapies, well
- 22:13 --> 22:14not more recently,
- 22:14 --> 22:16but standardly to chemotherapy
- 22:16 --> 22:19certain cancers may need radiation therapy,
- 22:19 --> 22:22where special ionized particles
- 22:22 --> 22:25are delivered to the cancer
- 22:25 --> 22:28site to kill cancer cells.
- 22:28 --> 22:31Surgery is also very important in our
- 22:31 --> 22:34treatment of cancers for certain types
- 22:34 --> 22:38of cancers where the tumor is removed.
- 22:38 --> 22:42And we now have more recently immune
- 22:42 --> 22:47therapy where we can give medication to
- 22:47 --> 22:52target a protein on the tumor which will
- 22:52 --> 22:54allow our immune system to attack the
- 22:54 --> 22:57tumor or cancer as if it was foreign.
- 22:57 --> 22:59And that's really cool.
- 22:59 --> 23:02And our targeted therapies work
- 23:02 --> 23:04by attacking the gene that's in
- 23:04 --> 23:07the gene mutations that are in the
- 23:07 --> 23:10cancer cells so that we're leaving
- 23:10 --> 23:13our normal healthy cells alone.
- 23:13 --> 23:16So we have very strong therapies
- 23:16 --> 23:18called hematopoietic stem cell
- 23:18 --> 23:21transplant or bone marrow transplant
- 23:21 --> 23:23where strong medicines are given
- 23:23 --> 23:26to eliminate the cancers.
- 23:26 --> 23:30Not many cancers require this
- 23:30 --> 23:34for therapy and we also have even
- 23:34 --> 23:36stronger therapy called chimeric
- 23:36 --> 23:38antigen receptor T cell therapy
- 23:38 --> 23:41also used in very rare instances.
- 23:41 --> 23:44Cancer therapy may last as long as
- 23:44 --> 23:48two to three years in certain cases.
- 23:48 --> 23:50And as short as you know,
- 23:50 --> 23:53three to six months,
- 23:53 --> 23:57so it really is on us to find
- 23:57 --> 23:59the exact cancer you have and
- 23:59 --> 24:01to treat it appropriately.
- 24:02 --> 24:05And so one would imagine that with
- 24:05 --> 24:08whatever type of therapy kids get
- 24:08 --> 24:12treated with for their childhood cancer,
- 24:12 --> 24:14that's going to cause some side
- 24:14 --> 24:16effects and so whether this is a
- 24:16 --> 24:18three month course of therapy or
- 24:18 --> 24:20a three-year course of therapy,
- 24:20 --> 24:22how do you deal with some
- 24:22 --> 24:23of those side effects?
- 24:23 --> 24:25Can you talk to us about those
- 24:25 --> 24:27side effects that kids may
- 24:27 --> 24:29face going through cancer therapy
- 24:29 --> 24:31and how that kind of affects their
- 24:31 --> 24:34lives both in terms of the time in
- 24:34 --> 24:35which they're getting the therapy?
- 24:35 --> 24:38How does that affect
- 24:38 --> 24:41them going to school and
- 24:41 --> 24:43in interacting with their friends?
- 24:43 --> 24:46And so on and so forth as well as long term,
- 24:46 --> 24:48I mean are there effects that people
- 24:48 --> 24:51should be cognizant of in terms of
- 24:51 --> 24:53the long term side effects of some of
- 24:53 --> 24:56these therapies for childhood cancer?
- 24:56 --> 24:59One of our secondary goals
- 24:59 --> 25:01during our cancer therapy is to
- 25:01 --> 25:04make sure kids get back to school
- 25:04 --> 25:07and keep up with their school work
- 25:07 --> 25:08and all their fun activities.
- 25:16 --> 25:18Sometimes the children will be back in the classroom,
- 25:18 --> 25:20sometimes we will need to provide tutors
- 25:20 --> 25:23because they're in the hospital setting.
- 25:23 --> 25:25So some of the short term side
- 25:25 --> 25:28effects of her medication range from
- 25:28 --> 25:30mild where you don't really notice
- 25:30 --> 25:34it to more severe where we need to
- 25:34 --> 25:36give supportive medications so that
- 25:36 --> 25:39it eliminates these side effects.
- 25:39 --> 25:43A common side effect is nausea and vomiting,
- 25:43 --> 25:44and this is dealt with
- 25:44 --> 25:49with mild to very strong anti nausea
- 25:49 --> 25:51medications. We have multiple combinations
- 25:51 --> 25:57of them and compared to 30 years ago,
- 25:57 --> 26:01many of our children need to be
- 26:01 --> 26:03hospitalized for intravenous fluid because
- 26:03 --> 26:07they're having excessive nausea and vomiting.
- 26:07 --> 26:11Another common side effect is with
- 26:11 --> 26:13certain therapies is hair loss.
- 26:13 --> 26:19It is temporary but also very upsetting.
- 26:19 --> 26:23We haven't found a supportive
- 26:23 --> 26:24cure for that just yet,
- 26:24 --> 26:29but some children will wear hats or
- 26:29 --> 26:32wigs to make them feel more comfortable.
- 26:32 --> 26:35Another side effect is to our blood cells.
- 26:35 --> 26:37Our blood cells help us fight infection.
- 26:37 --> 26:38Those are the white blood cells,
- 26:38 --> 26:39or red blood cells,
- 26:39 --> 26:40carry oxygen to a body.
- 26:40 --> 26:41Those are red cells.
- 26:41 --> 26:44And the platelets help us clot
- 26:44 --> 26:46our blood when we're injured.
- 26:46 --> 26:49And so sometimes a person may need
- 26:49 --> 26:52transfusions or injections of
- 26:52 --> 26:55medications to stimulate the production
- 26:55 --> 26:58of these cells so that you don't feel
- 26:58 --> 27:00tired and that you don't have nosebleeds
- 27:00 --> 27:04and that you don't have infections.
- 27:04 --> 27:07We are giving many
- 27:07 --> 27:09preventative medications for
- 27:09 --> 27:14infections so that there are less
- 27:14 --> 27:15hospitalizations for bacterial
- 27:15 --> 27:18infections or fungal infections.
- 27:18 --> 27:21Those are some of the short
- 27:21 --> 27:23term side effects.
- 27:23 --> 27:27I think the main one that I didn't talk
- 27:27 --> 27:30about was feeling tired and we try to
- 27:30 --> 27:33Improve energy levels with
- 27:33 --> 27:36nutrition and supporting the red
- 27:36 --> 27:38blood cell count as much as we can,
- 27:38 --> 27:42but we often will recommend not going
- 27:42 --> 27:46full tilt on all your activities
- 27:46 --> 27:48until the therapy is over.
- 27:48 --> 27:49But do what you can,
- 27:49 --> 27:52because we really support you going
- 27:52 --> 27:55to school and seeing your friends and
- 27:55 --> 27:58continuing with your activities over
- 27:58 --> 28:03the long term. Some children may
- 28:03 --> 28:05suffer a severe side effect from
- 28:05 --> 28:08their medication at the time of the
- 28:08 --> 28:10chemotherapy treatments and so may
- 28:10 --> 28:12have residual side effects later on.
- 28:12 --> 28:14Most children who have completed
- 28:14 --> 28:15their therapy do well,
- 28:15 --> 28:18but approximately 40% of our
- 28:18 --> 28:20childhood cancer survivors may have
- 28:20 --> 28:22one or more late effects.
- 28:22 --> 28:26Those are signs or symptoms in other parts
- 28:26 --> 28:30of the body that it can cause issues.
- 28:30 --> 28:33Doctor Mary Hogan is an associate professor of
- 28:33 --> 28:34Clinical Pediatrics and hematology
- 28:34 --> 28:38oncology at the Yale School of Medicine.
- 28:38 --> 28:40If you have questions,
- 28:40 --> 28:42the address is canceranswers@yale.edu,
- 28:42 --> 28:45and past editions of the program
- 28:45 --> 28:47are available in audio and written
- 28:47 --> 28:48form at yalecancercenter.org.
- 28:48 --> 28:51We hope you'll join us next week to
- 28:51 --> 28:52learn more about the fight against
- 28:52 --> 28:54cancer here on Connecticut Public Radio.
- 28:54 --> 28:57Funding for Yale Cancer Answers is
- 28:57 --> 29:00provided by Smilow Cancer Hospital.
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